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[Stupendous Man]

Ok guys,
I'm looking to stream line the site and make it a little easier to navigate.
What I'd like is people to give suggestions as to what they feel will make the site easier for you to use.


Please remeber some of this topics posts require moderation approval. If it does not error out after you click Submit/Post you will not need post it multiple times it is just not visible

[The_NuttyTart]

to be honest...in a way i'd like less changes...reason being, as fast as i get used to topics being in one place...everything gets revamped and they move somewhere else

[sosimpleitscomplicated]

Well I haven't had a lot of time to get used to this layout, but I would say make it a little more warm.

Maybe color code topics according to area of interest. What ever happened to Survivor and all those forum games?

Those were huge events that we always had a blast playing. Anyways, ya, my two cents is, it's great to have lots of variety, but if there's too many serious categories and not enough "fun" categories, it becomes a classroom, not a friendly environment. Does that make sense?

--Merged from Secondary Post--


I made a really long post but it didn't go for some reason.

I basically said, it would be nice if it was "warmer" a little more fun instead of so many serious topics.

What ever happened to the old games like survivor, ect?

[Robulosity]

One thing to remeber is the site's core goal is to help people.. Be it find friends, or people to provide them witih emotional support in a time of need. It pretty much always has been, in the past we strayed away from that goal.. Granted we got an influx of members, but they joined to basicly oogle profile pictures

Games of survivor can really only be played when our members have enough time in real life to come to the site and pay attention to something.  Its understandable as people grow (and grow up) that things like going to work, and raising their families become a more important aspect of their lives than well posting in an online game where there really is no benefits of playing other than getting to know people.. You already know! (seem's kind of repetitive eh?)

If you feel the site could use a bit more in the fun section, find creative ways to bring that to the site and credit will be given where credit is due.   But if it comes down to the site having nothing but stupid bullshit (again) where every topic strays to "OMG I WANT TO FUCK YOU"  or  "LOL TIME TO RAPE KITTENS" etc etc, the topics will quickly find them selves deleted.

[Robulosity]

The_NuttyTart, on Apr 19 2009, 06:56 AM, said:

to be honest...in a way i'd like less changes...reason being, as fast as i get used to topics being in one place...everything gets revamped and they move somewhere else

I very much agree with this post, and it has been something I have long pushed for (stopping the almost weekly changes of site layouts) granted some are needed as content and the site grows but its not needed anywhere near as much as it currently is done. As it becomes counter intuitive and somewhat offensive to our older client base (Older as in been around here longer not as in Old like your a senior citizen.. ugh im tired whatever!!!)


One goal of the SSF 3.0 Project is to allow our members to have a portal page which THEY control. Which means you can control what you would like to see on it, and in some cases where the content is even displayed.  At the moment I can't give a definitive example as I've had to take the Beta Site down due to issues with a run away script (which caused the host to suspend the site last week because of excessive server utilization)

[sosimpleitscomplicated]

Robert, on Apr 19 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

One thing to remeber is the site's core goal is to help people.. Be it find friends, or people to provide them witih emotional support in a time of need. It pretty much always has been, in the past we strayed away from that goal.. Granted we got an influx of members, but they joined to basicly oogle profile pictures

Games of survivor can really only be played when our members have enough time in real life to come to the site and pay attention to something.  Its understandable as people grow (and grow up) that things like going to work, and raising their families become a more important aspect of their lives than well posting in an online game where there really is no benefits of playing other than getting to know people.. You already know! (seem's kind of repetitive eh?)

If you feel the site could use a bit more in the fun section, find creative ways to bring that to the site and credit will be given where credit is due.   But if it comes down to the site having nothing but stupid bullshit (again) where every topic strays to "OMG I WANT TO FUCK YOU"  or  "LOL TIME TO RAPE KITTENS" etc etc, the topics will quickly find them selves deleted.

lol You certainly haven't changed a bit. Maybe if you managed to take the stick out of your ass you wouldn't feel the need to control everything.

[Robulosity]

1) I own this site as well does Rob and for all intensive purposes Sven and Anna
2) The content control is completely up to the people who OWN this site (pay its bills)
3) We remove offensive Members and content

It would be like me going into your home and telling everyone what a twat you are..

I took the time to approve a moderation required post (which I'll also state Rob required you to have.. NOT me...) and respond with information and other valuable advice (including on how YOU could help get topic types you wanted to see) how ever, it comes with a notice that we as in Any Owner or Moderator on the site can and WILL remove garbage that is deemed
1) Offensive
2) Rude
3) Inappropriate

Based on reports from OUR members.. Hence that little "! Report" button on most of our skins..

You received 1 warning from Rob before comming back and that was to not start shit.. Do not make me count this as an attempt to do so, especially after providing you with constructive feedback. You were banned once for a reason, it takes me under 30 seconds to repeat that process

To allow time to Deal with this twit, I have removed his ability to Post, or PM for at least 24 hours

[Stupendous Man]

he's passing on info Christopher.
It's something that I do agree with and am currently working very hard to implement.

Ideally Simone the goal is to find a layout that will be able to work with as little change as possible.
Unfortunately I don't have a lot to go on, because the only time I get "suggestions" is when people complain (bitch).

Basically I mainly hear :

"The site isn't fun enough"
I add entertaining content, and it's either not used or only a select group utilize it

"The site isn't serious enough"
So we add intellectual conversations and content that again, isn't always utilized or is only done so by a select group.

"There are too many forums"
So we contract forums and make more subforums

"I don't like subforums they're too confusing"


So it goes around and around and in the end.. no one ever seems pleased

[Robulosity]

Yes Yes Rob which we appreciate, how ever not all change is good change!

One note to add, is if people complain make them provide you with information as to what and HOW they want to see the site change.. Remind them there are sometimes costs involved so not every suggestion can be dealt with even if we *want* to

A friend of mine who also runs a forums site (who was reading this) said (and noted how quickly a good majority of any forum owner would of banned the involved with in 30 seconds... Im sure Matt can verify this)

"Anything you post is a priveldge not a right when you are a guest some where that you do not ultimately own.." Kinda goes along with the phrase don't shit where you eat.  

Anyway the goal and need is to keep the site

1) User Friendly
2) Clean enough for ALL age groups
3) Minimize Moderation to the point where its almost not required
4) Provide Respect for the Site Administrators
5) The Administrators to provide respect to its members
6) When Rules are violated, offending parties will be disciplined in all cases be it via "gagging", suspension or banning

A good example of how we are currently failing is this topic and members like Chris.  You do not have to like someone to show respect, but it is a requirement of being here.  That has not and will not ever change, and we (the Admin Group) will be taking a more serious stance than ever on this view

You all may agree with his statement that I have a "stick" up my ass, but take it from this perspective. In the years this site moved to this domain (and .org which had expired) I personally have spent (Not Rob, not Sven Not Anna.. Me) around 2200$ to keep this site alive.  If I had of been a company billing time to maintaine and repair this site everytime something blew up.. I'd be a very rich man right now.

My responsabilities are to keep this site not only Legal,  but also to cover the Investors (Rob, myself , Sven and Matt) from potential legal issues arising from membership use including complying with International Copyrights, Anti-spam laws and individual intelectual ownership laws for every country in which we operate..  Granted I have made some good friends here, just remeber that is not why I am ultimately here.. It is to help maintain a governing set of rules and policies to keep the site alive..  Something which I've had problems doing from a moral perspective and legal perspective over the years due to how members have abused this site..

[Guss]

I think opposite.
I think we need to focus more on the serious topics
and less on the 'fun' ones.

But that's just me.

[Stupendous Man]

sosimpleitscomplicated, on Apr 19 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

What ever happened to the old games like survivor, ect?

Survivor is still here. Just need people to get more involved so we can launch a successful one!

[The_NuttyTart]

___.Guss, on Apr 20 2009, 04:18 AM, said:

I think opposite.
I think we need to focus more on the serious topics
and less on the 'fun' ones.

But that's just me.

i disagree...i think we need a good mix of fun and serious topics....i like fun topics and light hearted posts...but sometimes i do post in serious threads...and it's nice to have the choice

perhaps with regard to people posting silly things and saying they want to fuck this, that and the other....how about a fucking thread???.....i've seen it on a few forums...and basically it's a thread where people can swear to their hearts content (without abusing other people)...and not be pulled up for it...it would keep that language in one place

and yeh rob...sometimes you do seem like you have a stick up your ass..but to be fair...i can understand why sometimes....i do appreciate you work hard on this site (especially when robbie redecorates!!!!!)...and that ssf wouldn't be around if it wasn't for you...and anyways.....doesn't everybody act like they have a stick up their ass at some point????....but you also have a nice side to you...you'll help people out where needed....and you'll nearly always explain why things have happened or will happen

and yep...we all complain quick enough but never suggest stuff...so here's my two cents for what it's worth!!!

don't make too many changes and keep it simple...and keep a good mix of serious and fun stuff...it's a good mix and works

[Robulosity]

I've never had an issue with having "fun" topics, but the problem is... All topics usually end up getting brain killing responses in them...

There was one post in a topic about rape where a member went on to say "Wow, I wish I could get raped by *insert person* its a total fetish" after someone poured their heart out about the trauma they endured after being raped..

Although not as dramatic as the above, its not uncommon on the site to see such an attitude where people think "Oh I bet Comedy can difuse a serious situtation"... when its intended to stay serious

The Goal is balance as you mentioned, its just hard to find said balance on a Forum with out unfortunately having to do heavy moderation work

[Stupendous Man]

I'd like to point out the fact that my request for suggestions has resulted in very few actual suggestions
The ratio of bitching to positive suggestions is daunting!

As for my "redecoration" Rob likes to blame me for a lot of stuff that *cough* he is some times responsible for.
Another problem is when we have mods on the site, they some times don't have an upgrade, so when the software is updated the mod stops working

*Point in case the videos for peoples profiles, The posting contest*

So none of this hating on Robbie business. I put a heck of a lot of work into this site too. So does Sven and Anna.

[Robulosity]

*cough*

Not all the mods are documented ! If they were I could re-code them but thats an internal issue.. And in all fairness I addressed the "Suggestions"!

[Godless-Liberal]

And I will note that none of the bitching has been from me.  

[The_NuttyTart]

oh i didn't mean it as a bitching....and yes...having a topic of who you want to be raped by is going a tad too far in my view

but i will try and think up some more suggestions!!

[Guss]

Anything you guys do, I'm sure it will great.
And I'm in for a Survivor. =)